1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:40,000 This year has been a big increase the last six months, and a lot more settings have been 2 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000 regularly passed. 3 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 That's right. 4 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,000 In many settings here, some of them in foreign countries, in most United States. 5 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:55,000 You've run the books thousands and thousands of settings, most of which we have found in 6 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 the Middle East. 7 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Twenty percent are unexploded, and those are the ones we concentrate on in this report. 8 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:09,000 This is a seven-year report based on public reports and radar operators and other training 9 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 services. 10 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Well, there's one out of five of the ones we're talking about. 11 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Now the Air Force, which is the official United States representative of speaking about this, 12 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 I believe, issues, reports regularly. 13 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:29,000 I have a new one here we called today down to Washington to get the very latest thing. 14 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 And here, oh, there. 15 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Well, how are you doing, mother? 16 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Well, I'm in the Middle East. 17 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Well, how's that going on? 18 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Oh, but I'm not writing anything here. 19 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000 I'm not open-minded. 20 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 I'm not open-eyed. 21 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,000 I'm curious about things that don't lie down in this report. 22 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Let me quote Major Master of NJ, Public Information Division of the Department of Air Force, the 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Quality of the National Defense. 24 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 The Air Force has responsibility for being air-defensive of the U.S. 25 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 It is also interested in the air phenomenon. 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Sixteen years of tracking down reports, nine thousand. 27 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Not one has ever turned out to be a threat to American security, nor an example of advanced 28 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,000 technology, or interplanetary or extraterrestrial origin. 29 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Well, that would seem to wash it out for a while. 30 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 No, not because of the evidence. 31 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,000 They have, that's the policy they've had for the last eight years. 32 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,000 When I read this, it just says that not one, one of what? 33 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Not one has ever turned out to be a threat to American security. 34 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Well, that's a judgment. 35 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Somebody has to decide if it's a threat. 36 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Maybe there. 37 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,000 A judgment is whether it's advanced technology, if you see something in the data, 38 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 I'm thinking advanced. 39 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 But, the people see things and have it forged. 40 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 This report has been I have told them. 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Nor does the project, the book thing, which is all old-fashioned, 42 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 let me read one more line. 43 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,000 The unidentified group, the small group, that's one that contains hypothesis 44 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 that certainly cause or explanation of the report with the description of the object 45 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,000 or explosion which cannot be correlated with any known object or phenomenon. 46 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 He gives itself a little kick head. 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 If you don't know about it, we've got eight dollars. 48 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 And that's what they are, unknown things, I tell you. 49 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Well, the positive evidence in the house, though, was so strong that our scientists 50 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 and technical consultants on our board have concluded the majority of them. 51 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 These things are superior to anything that we know. 52 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 They're under intelligent control. 53 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,000 And since they are far beyond anything we have here, they must be adjusted. 54 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 But, it's superior to the big, faster beats. 55 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 For instance, the highest speed of the Air Force admits this. 56 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,000 The highest speed that they've definitely tracked from radar was over 9,000. 57 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 You mean the Air Force that says nothing from A.S.T.A.T.R.S.T.R. 58 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 goes 9,000 miles an hour? 59 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Well, that's the very odd part of it. 60 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 They have all of these hundreds of cases. 61 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 We have duplicates of about 400 of their cases. 62 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Now, that one in particular was where an object was seen flying about 9,000 miles an hour 63 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 and several small objects came in and merged with it. 64 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Well, the assumption was that this was part of the carrier issue, 65 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 but that was an official Air Force that tells it to go. 66 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,000 I heard something about a report from the Navy about it, that's Maryland. 67 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 We have that. 68 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:47,000 On December 19, two radar objects, the object's going about 6,000 or 6,000 knots 69 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 at 72 miles an hour. 70 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 One of these objects made a very sharp 160 degree turn. 71 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Now, if you could think of anything that we have that would fly that fast in our atmosphere, 72 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,000 even if this integrated, it would make a turn at that speed. 73 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 So, this is something revolutionary. 74 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 And these men signed a report, I have a copy of one of those, 75 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 and there was no question about it. 76 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 It was released and approved by the operations officer at the Doge. 77 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Of the Navy? 78 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 What's the Air Force, they told me. 79 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 The Air Force sent a Delta officer over there and told these men not to talk about it. 80 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,000 By that time, the story leaked out and they came back and they said, 81 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,000 either the radar objects are incompetent or your radar wasn't working, 82 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 but they never examined the radar. 83 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Well, I had to wear this whole book and it was full of assumptions, is that right? 84 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 No, they're really stuck. 85 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 They started out, at first, very much worried about this. 86 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,000 They thought maybe the Russians had jumped into the heat of the Ketschers outside. 87 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And then during World War II, they went back, they found out there were reports coming in, 88 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:59,000 things going thousands of miles an hour, and obviously beyond anything that we get at that time. 89 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 So they ruled out, and the Earth made devices. 90 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Well, the next question was if there were extra troops, who were they lost to? 91 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 They were naturally doing a secret labor on the project. 92 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 They kept the numbers at good. 93 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 And they never happened, and they were found out and looked back at. 94 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 So that's why it's secret. 95 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Well, they don't want to go that fast, that early something. 96 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 They can hover. 97 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:29,000 After analyzing about 4,000 reports, we select 750 to implement in this night care report. 98 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And the ball of talent, the fact that these things have some revolutionary power 99 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 that induces an artificial gravity. 100 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,000 They can accelerate to thousands of miles an hour, very quickly. 101 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 They can make right angle turns without, you know, airplane bangs. 102 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Well, they don't have to do that. 103 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 They can stop, reverse course. 104 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 They can go vertically, or descend vertically. 105 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Has anyone ever come down to the ground where, you know, get your hands on it? 106 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:05,000 The Sephora in case, you saw the picture of that, down New Mexico, I say so. 107 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 April 24, 64. 108 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Now, the Air Force admits they have not really gone soft like this. 109 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 They just came down and they were seen by the New Mexico patrolmen. 110 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 And they came all posted to it. 111 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,000 They destroyed the blast of flames in the barge and the golf and the spirit in Matters 2. 112 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:29,000 I have a letter from your friend, Major Jacks, said to one of our members in which he says, 113 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 we have no answer for this. 114 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 We have never been able to solve it. 115 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 But we don't concede to some known vehicle, West Matters base, 116 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 so they just say there was a vehicle there. 117 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 No, no, no. 118 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 That's a question. 119 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 The ones that keep it a secret, they don't know anything about it. 120 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000 If I might interrupt for a second, Major, we'll be right back in just a moment 121 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,000 with more about UFO, but first, something that is identifiable, a commercial. 122 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 I thought you made a sound with me. 123 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Well, uh, my cap. 124 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,000 The investigating outfit to see what happens with the biologists. 125 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 The address of my cap, if you, by the way, get a report or see something yourself, 126 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,000 you want to contribute to my cap and I see it being Washington, D.C. 127 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 The caliber of the people who send it to the courts, given what they're just talking about, 128 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 is the most, to me, impressive. 129 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 The two national people, for example, you mentioned. 130 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:33,000 And airline pilots, people who are solver, industrious citizens, they've been trained in many ways. 131 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Even airline, Air Force pilots send them in sometimes enough without telling the Air Force. 132 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Why is it after all these years that Joe seems to know so little about it? 133 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Don't they have any definite evidence? 134 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 They do have. They've had three different conclusions. 135 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 And one of them is these things were interplanetary spaceships, 136 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 and they sat on that for a long time, the monitor of our project. 137 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 It's confirmed the fact there was a top secret report like that. 138 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Well, that's pretty much like doctors, whenever they can't figure out something they say is a virus. 139 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,000 You know, it's a true decadent. They keep coming back to the same thing. 140 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 They've proven nothing definite. 141 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Well, they're on the spot because they denied it so long. 142 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 But now, when they finally do come out and say, well, we knew they were real, 143 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 but we were doing it for the best interests of the public. 144 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Well, a lot of people out on Capitol Hill are going to be sore, and so will the press. 145 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Major, when you use that phrase, I assume that you're talking about the United States government, 146 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 is the reason they don't want us, the people, to know about it, 147 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 is because they fear that the people will be unable to cope with the situation of what? 148 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Well, that was the first fear that there would be hysteria, 149 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 and I suppose there would be some excitement for 10 days, 150 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 but after all, we've lived through the threat of an H-bomb, 151 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:45,000 and everything else that I don't think could be killed any more dead by some unknown space device than with an H-bomb. 152 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:51,000 But it's just that down in Pentagon, people get wrapped up and tied up in things. 153 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:57,000 They stamp this top secret and that secret, and they hate to admit that they've been carrying this up for a long time. 154 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Well, the first people will simply do the things they want. 155 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 You too, we didn't allow them to do the things they want. 156 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Actually, in July, when the Mariners, the Mariners that's down the way in Mars, 157 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 they don't shoot back pictures of all our little green people, 158 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 and it's going to knock this whole thing down, and now where are they coming from? 159 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Not necessarily, because the scientists recently lectured, incidentally lectured to the Air Force Cadets out at the Air Force Academy, 160 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 and he believed the UFOs had told them so, and said the evidence was calling, 161 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 and also believes they're intelligent on Mars. 162 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 But the Air Force associates them out because they just may be. 163 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 There's a civilization which has gone underground, and if that's so, 164 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000 because of the lack of oxygen, they wouldn't anything show to these photographs to be taken from about 6,000 miles out. 165 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Well, I honestly have never felt there was any life on the planet Mars, 166 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 because they've never asked the United States for a loan. 167 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 When the planet goes by, you may be thought I've bestowed a word like yes. 168 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 This is a photograph, like that. 169 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:08,000 That was very close, it doesn't look close there, but the close encounter with the Navy Super Constellation Transport, 170 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 which was flying the Atlantic toward Gander-Newfoundland, 171 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 and they saw this light that went down near the surface, 172 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 and they filed a bank to take a look, and one of these objects immediately came up, 173 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:29,000 and it almost collided with the transport, and then it reversed and came back and faced the Super Constellation for about 10 seconds, and so on. 174 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Well, he crawled out to an Indian village and then took him into a hospital, and it was in the hospital for a little while. 175 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Well, the first time I heard that, I thought that's a fault, because we've just given the lie detector test to another man, 176 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 and he did make something very wild playing, and he didn't pass the test. 177 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:54,000 So I thought, well, this is the same thing, but since then, they set out a jammer and found out that the ground around there was scorched, 178 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 where this object had touched down, and the tops of the trees were scorched and broken, 179 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 and this man couldn't have planned up to three of the broken ones. 180 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Well, to me, having made it, then, probably an alligator got him. 181 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Not even the semimoles that were at war with the Atlantic's stuff. 182 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Well, I know the gentleman, we've caused just pretty fear of this. 183 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 You know you're expecting? 184 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 We've caused just pretty belief in this commercial message all the way. 185 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:32,000 This may be sees nightlife. We are in the midst of a discussion that you can hear amongst our host, Dave Garroway, and Major Keemo and Moran. 186 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 I'm trying to make sure that a flying saucer isn't something my wife floated me. 187 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 There's a thought, and wow, what do you think about that? 188 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Another one of these? 189 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 No, this is just a mention of identification. 190 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Well, any UFO that may be watching, probably my wife. 191 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 The United States Marine Corps, entirely, who was with Admiral Bird on these, 192 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 but Admiral and the President of the A.D. and Colonel Bird, 193 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 who had been very close to many operations, 194 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,000 had probably this kind of thing, which he had become the leading, 195 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,000 not proponent for, because I think the major is critical for parts of anybody I know. 196 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 I'm just trying to say, I'm making these with public view, 197 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 but most of the ones that come into you have described those two. 198 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 No, I would say we've discovered about 15% immediately, 199 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,000 and then the others, you put a question mark in front of any, that are pretty well backed. 200 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,000 But when you find a group of, say, 25 or 30 people to impulsory our man, 201 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 you don't put those outside. 202 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 I think that over half the reports we have in our file are, 203 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 they could be solid evidence, and I will take 20% of them as proof. 204 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Major, do you find it interesting that, I've read up on UFO to some degree, 205 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,000 that the reports always seem to come from the wilds of New Mexico, 206 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 or a little town in Florida. 207 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Why is it that you never hear of a UFO landing, 208 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,000 or an accurate sighting near a big city like New York, Chicago? 209 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Is there a reason? 210 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 No, it may have, but you just haven't read about them. 211 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Now, for instance, on January 11th this year, 212 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 the formation of between 2012 and 2015, 213 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Oval Shades of the Crew right over Washington, 214 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,000 the report was backed up by Lieutenant Colonel in the Army, 215 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:26,000 six communications specials in the Army, and a number of other people. 216 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Just before I came up here, I was talking with an FAA, 217 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Federal Aviation Agency man in control, 218 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 who said that they did have some on the radio. 219 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Now the Air Force came up flatly and said it just didn't happen, 220 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 it was all made up. 221 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Probably a bunch of Congressmen trying to handle it. 222 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,000 So they've been sighted over many cities. 223 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 That's a trouble you can take. 224 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Anyone who doesn't take the time to pour through all of this massive evidence 225 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,000 is bound to be just as I did, I thought it was nothing. 226 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Well, that is the first I had to investigate this. 227 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 I said, I'll do it, and you pay me for it, 228 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 but I'm not going to hit my name on it. 229 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 It was never quite a while back, but after talking to classmates 230 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 and people who haven't even been able to see these things, 231 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 and the better politics, you know, 232 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 there's been a lot of people who have seen them, 233 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 that, well, they can't be crazy, they wouldn't be letting them fly. 234 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 What's your answer then to skeptics who say that anything as big as this 235 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 no government, including our own, could keep secret? 236 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,000 That if there was such a thing as a UFO, 237 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,000 or there were such things that just by the sheer did of it, 238 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,000 it's, you know, the fucking such a big story that they couldn't keep it secret. 239 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Well, and the answer is it isn't secret. 240 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 They're trying to keep it secret, but organizations like ours, 241 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,000 we have 6,000 members of which about 5,000 in the United States, all 50 states. 242 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 We have members in the space program, in all the armed forces, 243 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 some up on Capitol Hill, and we're bound to get leads. 244 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 We get a lot of information. 245 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,000 People are violating national security. 246 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 They're maybe stepping over the line on military orders. 247 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 But this is so big that it's bound to break out. 248 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Now, as you take a statement by Vice Admiral Hillen Carter, 249 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 who was formerly head of the CIA at the Hotel in the States, 250 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,000 he was on our border building for five years, 251 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 and he finally made a statement. 252 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,000 He said, these things are real and under intelligent control. 253 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000 It's important. 254 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,000 It's so serious that Congress shouldn't have an investigation of them, 255 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 as soon as possible. 256 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Now, you wouldn't call him a crack-buck. 257 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 I couldn't go ahead, we had the time, 258 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 and then 500 people right down the line 259 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 who had the same high reputation and responsibility. 260 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 And they have taken the time to go through it. 261 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 It would take you three weeks to go through them, 262 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 and then you detailed reports in this book. 263 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 And they have a lot of things called Manhattan Projects, 264 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 pretty secret areas. 265 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 But can they actually feel that perhaps there are people in these various dens? 266 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,000 I only met two or three cases where serious people claim to have seen it. 267 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Now, of course, there are plenty of crack-bots. 268 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 We'll say they met the long-haired, golden-haired men from Venus, 269 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000 and one man said he married a woman from Saturn, and all that sort of thing. 270 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 We've been knocking those things down until it's a great pleasure to find one of those, 271 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 because I think Dave has spotted one of those. 272 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Yes, but he's looking around and running. 273 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,000 But he's never stopped to figure that maybe the Martians are just shying. 274 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 That's possible. 275 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,000 They said, well, we'll let them know we're around, but we don't want to be nosy. 276 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Of course, the phrase intelligence, you know, they say, 277 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,000 do you think there is intelligence in other parts of the cosmos? 278 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 That presupposes that we are intelligent here on Earth, 279 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,000 and I think you might get an argument as to whether what we exhibit toward each other. 280 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 You really think a Martian would say that? 281 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 I don't know. 282 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 I'm very much pleased I was smart, because other planets have been around 283 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 for maybe two or three million more years of culture. 284 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 I wonder what they've learned in two to three million years. 285 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 They might even know more than me. 286 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 I would hope so. 287 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 What point did you raise if I may say this briefly? 288 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 About how this could be. 289 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,000 But do you know that there's a very serious side to this? 290 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 At least three Air Force officers have been lost chasing these things. 291 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 They've been almost under an airline passage. 292 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 They've been injured with a case of agent. 293 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 He's died underneath, he's one or zoomed over, 294 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 and a lot of these pilots are sort of there for us. 295 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 They say, why don't they tell us what to do? 296 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Well, at least you can come in toward us, so it flies along the side. 297 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Come and they shot my radar. 298 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 They're under the case of some radar. 299 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 The radar's a good photo of our classified by Air Force Order. 300 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 And there's an odd thing. Air Force Order 200-H2, 301 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 which shows that you take time to read that, and it proves it. 302 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 And it says, nobody may mention this to anyone, unless they're directed to do so. 303 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 But we've got to copy them and start publicizing them. 304 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 So what's now? It's secret. 305 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 You can't get a copy. Not even a member of Congress can get a copy of them. 306 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Do you have a sensory major as to where they're from or what they indicate? 307 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 No, I only know this. 308 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 The things are real, and they're certainly something beyond anything we have. 309 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000 And they seem to be entering into a new phase, 310 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,000 but then more of these cuts go in than they have had for years. 311 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 And the Air Force is still chasing you with interceptors, 312 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 and they may still be firing at you. I don't know. 313 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Why do you think they do not make themselves known if they are, or if there are people in them? 314 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Well, for one thing, if somebody's chasing you with a jet and firing at you every time you come down, 315 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 most of them might not be encouraging you for one thing. 316 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 That's another thing. 317 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Dr. Heineck, who is the Chief Air Force Consultant on this program, 318 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 says that they may not have speaks that they may be using telepathy, 319 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 and he's supposed to be able to serious science, 320 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 but they just, it's part of that. 321 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Now the Puerto Rico and the huge radio astronomy base down there, 322 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 they are now carrying on a trans-civite program, 323 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 listening to messages from outer space. 324 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Well, if there is such a thing as thought-transference measures, 325 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I would like to transfer a strategic event, 326 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,000 and I would like to say that it is a great honor, 327 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 328 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 329 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 330 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 331 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 332 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 333 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 334 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 335 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 336 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 337 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor, 338 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 and it is a great honor, and it is a great honor,